Would I ever go back to ed?

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Hey lovelies,

I recently met someone from my ed past. She was a bit sceptical of the idea of full recovery. How did I know the ed would not come back some time? Was I ever tempted to go back, even sometimes, a little bit?

Absolutely not!!

Ed could never sneak up on me or reclaim me now - not when I have awareness and choices. I would have to make that choice to go back and no I never ever would. Not now when I know I can have another alternative. I will never want or need to go back. I value my life now, I value myself now, I would never ever give up all that I have gained, the amazing opportunities, experiences, warm happy feelings in a trade off to avoid any bad ones or escape fears. Even now when something does happen and it hurts I find myself quietly thinking wow I am alive I am human this is amazing to just be human and feel it, to just allow myself be imperfect and be totally ok with it and feel compassion for myself flaws n all!

I find it honestly hard now to imagine how I chose that self-torture and felt I was in a safe place protecting myself from harm and the world around me. In reality I was in a constant state of abuse and fear. Filling my world with false highs and goals and so called strength and self control… Hell that’s what it was and miserable that’s what I was, slowly dying on the inside.
I once thought that the scales made me high and thought my bones would make me feel beautiful. Now life makes me high makes me feel beautiful absorbed in the beauty around me it feels like its in such abundance, connecting with people, embracing life it fills me top to toe with a bright energy that makes me feel beautiful and worthy and alive and connected!! Something ed could never give. What I have now is real.

I’m not a robot, people hurt me, I get lonely, I get bored, I feel sad, I feel tired, but these are just feelings and all of them will pass. Most of all these feelings are signals to guide me to what I need to do for myself, what do I want? What do I need? Do I need to rest, do I need to reach out and connect, do I need fun? to let loose and go out and party!!?

Life is incredible both the good and the bad. I have no doubt in my mind about recovery being full and real. Within me I feel completely solid, although the world around sometimes feels as though it is spinning out of control, throwing all sorts at me, when I ground myself, when I look inside I am certain that I will be ok, I may not know the answer but I will find it, It may be challenging but I am safe and I can cope, I am allowing myself live life and be imperfect and I truly love that.

You see when I met this girl the ed we both knew was a strong, overpowering force that seemed unstoppable. In the meantime my ed has become a soggy scrap of paper floating somewhere off the African coast and I have become a strong and powerful wise beautiful passionate happy person. Ed wont mess with me now coz I would take it down so fast it wouldn’t know what hit it!!!

And lovelies this is there for all of you, real life is such a beautiful and real experience one that each of us was born for. Those of you who feel ed is large and powerful know that as you work on recovery you are beating it down to something powerless and weak insignificant as you become the strong and beautiful amazing person you truly are, you become the power in your life ,youre in charge.

That girl and I parted ways yrs ago and our paths led us different directions. We both faced challenges and decisions and we were both given oppurtunities and we both made different choices. I look within me today to see my fully recovered self looking back solid and mine forever, she lives with the ed on her shoulder.
Recovery is very real - Choose Life!!

Joanne x x x

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i have been sitting here all

i have been sitting here all day thinking will i wont i regret movin on, letting go and recovering, i even thought ya no what f... it its not worth even trying i wont like it om scared ... but i am so glad you posted this, its so genuine and real and my ed is like she is lyin but i know joanne and i know you mean evry word of this so i believe you. i want to be the happy free girl in this post not the one with a monster inside and various conditions sitting and waiting on her shoulder. of course i do.....

Ciara xxxx

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Inspiring!

Dear Joanne,

What an inspiring, motivational post! I remember when I was in the condition, I was SO terrified of letting it go and for a long time I fought tooth and nail to keep it. I found it very hard to believe or understand that a recovered person would not want to go back.

This aspect of recovery, for me, was a bit like moving out of home! When I entered treatment it was a bit like discovering, as a child, that you will someday have to leave home and become independent. Obviously as a child you are not ready to leave home and the thought of doing so would be terrifying because you are not mature enough nor have you developed the skills to take care of yourself yet. As you get older you begin to experience moments of independence - you start off going to sleep-overs in your friends' houses, next you may go on summer camps, then Irish college or as an exchange student in a foreign country. It will be challenging, you will probably be homesick or indeed you may love your new-found independence and look forward to the day that you can be your own person. However, for some, these experiences could make you feel even more apprehensive about moving out of home because you realise, right now, just how reliant you are on your parents and family. Of course you will not be fully independent yet but it is a taster of what is to come. As you are getting older and you mature, you learn the necessary skills of life and of being independent. These changes happen gradually and eventually you will crave your freedom so you will go onto college or move away to work and, if you are like me, after a while you cannot imagine ever living at home again because your freedom, being totally independent and being your own boss is a fantastic feeling. This is what full recovery is like. I could NEVER go back because life on the other side is SO much better. Please don't ever be afraid of what is to come because, trust me it is worth it!

I hope this makes sense!

C xx

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i have a question this is

i have a question this is proby totaly stupid but how do you know when you are ready liek seriously i get what your saying about been a kid and stuff we all know when to spend a weeka away when we are ready for a bit more etc... but do you just get these lightbulbs moments that instantly make you feel ready? just curious....

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Hey Cir, I think there are a

Hey Cir,

I think there are a number of ways in which we realise we are ready to recover. In C's post I think C is referring to the process of discovery that we all go through during recovery. When any of us start out we don't know what recovery means or what life is like without the condition. But little by little with the help of our therapist/counsellor, or talking here on Iceberg or just through living a bit more, we begin to see what life can be like without the condition.

As you said yourself, there can be these little light bulb moments or just glimpses of freedom that show us how much easier, happier and fulfilling life can be with out the presence of ED. Each time you learn a little bit more about freedom, it gives you another reason to not want the condition any more. The more we amass all these little pieces, the clearer the picture becomes and the easier it is for us to see what recovery is so we become less afraid of it.

So, even if you are still a little bit apprehensive about recovery, trust that you don't need to learn it all today. Just learn a little bit to help you become more ready for it.

Loving your posts Cir - keep at it.

- IM

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thanks for explaining it

thanks for explaining it makes a bi more sense now. exra shot of motivaion i so needed today , thanks a mil darlin x

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Joanne,
How very, very, very, very, very inspiring.
I completely relate to everything you've expressed in your post.
I really find this question very annoying "how do you know you're recovered?" "would you ever go back?" People can be uncomfortable about the new more confident, no nonsense, happier, recovered you. I know some people are probably just curious but I've experienced a lot of skeptism not only about recovery but even about the concept of being happy & content in yourself. A few years ago when i was becoming quite annoyed
- I heard this phrase on Oprah - "mediocrity always attacks excellence" - There's nothing worse than seeing someone happy when you're miserable

We do all have choices - We can stay in the ED and allow it to bully us into being a small person or we can find the courage to be more.
ED is a sad, lonely place where I personally lived out the ugliest, most unattractive version of myself.. it is not a good place, a safe place or a happy place. The condition is an ugly thing & it robs us of our beautiful selves and everything we have the power to be
Other people's doubts are all about their own limitations, not yours. People will judge you by their own standards. Here's to creating your own & continuing to be an inspiration girl

There's only us. There's only this.
Forget regret, or life is yours to miss.
No other road. No other way.
No day but today

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amazed...

Lovely, Joanne, just lovely...

You are speaking my mind...
"Would I ever go back?..." NO, NEVER!!!
I have spent half of my life in this condition, thinking I did manage actually... but I didn't because I didn't live, I just existed...and I didn't appreciate this existence at all...
God, when I think back, how could I have made my life so incredibly complicated?!?
Joanne, I could just repeat every word you say...

And Lee, just this last week, meeting a lot of my family in Germany at a wedding, I came across this disbelief of others with regards to full recovery, my full recovery that is... It is sad, it is a pity, and I felt almost a bit powerless in my attempt to convince the other person that full recovery was possible... but then again, who would blame them? I had allegedly already fully recovered twenty years ago, then again eight years ago... so who would blame them to be all skeptical and doubtful?
The only person for whom it is really important and relevant to know in the end is me, and only with being sure of myself and confident in my ability to live will I, hopefully, eventually be able to show the prove to everybody around me:
Full recovery and a life in freedom is possible and there for everybody who chooses it.
On the other hand I must say that I got a lot of compliments, that I had a lot of fun, that I made many people laugh, that I danced wildly with the wee girl of one of my cousins, that I eat cake and a three course dinner with the greatest of joy, and that certainly nobody around me, nobody at all, would have known just how proud, happy and amazed I felt of myself and my ability to enjoy life and be free from any self-destructive and self-depreciating thinking... In fact, I was on a never-ending high I guess...

Love...
xxx Robin xxx

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"Completely solid"

I want to feel 'completely solid', like you Joanne. And Lee, I think that 'ugly thing' describes the condition perfectly.
I am tired of this. I want to be free.
Only I can win this for myself.
I can do anything, once I shake myself free of the cocoon.
I have tears in my eyes, but that's alright. i'm just tired of fighting.
It doesn't mean i'll stop. I know it will be worth it.
Thank you girls and all recovered people, for continuing to be an inspiration and a help to me.
I will join you. I will. I will. I did nothing to deserve to stay in this place forever. I will get out.
I'm so sad. I can't believe I still have such sadness inside me.
But I will be happy.
Life IS beautiful.
Thanks, Michelle xx

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Just what i needed

Dear Joanne,
Just as everyone else said, thank you so much for such an inspiring post, and twas just what i needed to hear...i'm sitting here fighting the thoughts , trying to change images in my head, and asking myself ' Why the hell am i even bothering to entertain them', you are so right, life takes over, it is that which makes you stronger against the ED, sometimes the more occurs in life, the more solid you become, the more content you become in yourself, the more you wonder why do i want to keep on entertaining this?...
i too am experiencing real good bouts of freedom, and i find myself just wanting to sit in the moment, and wrap all those moments up, i'm actually not interested in doing too much, big change for me, cos i am just realishing in the present moment of it all, like today i got so excited cos i'm starting 2 new fashion and design courses, and i brought oscar-the dog, for a walk, and smelt my mams petuania's and just thought thank God for air, nature, life, expereinces, thank God i am here fighting the good fight, and loving me more and more each day...
thank u
emerh

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Today I spent a 'lazy' day

Today I spent a 'lazy' day with my son. We got up late then in the afternoon he wanted to go for lunch (preferring somewhere that served chicken nuggets!), then we spent a lot of the afternoon on the sofa which today was not a sofa but in fact a motor boat, the two of us with my beloved old Bagpuss teddy as our shipmate, zooming past pirates, ducks, dolphins & other boats. Sounds silly but was so much fun when you're sitting beside a five year old who truly believes we are doing just that!

When I was in the condition I would have beaten myself up for getting up so late, panicked about even entering a fast-food restaurant, let alone eating in one and spending an afternoon on the sofa would have been, in the conditions opinion, sinful. I wouldn't have spent the afternoon laughing, that's for sure.

So, would I ever go back? What do you think...?

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that day sounds so perfect

that day sounds so perfect but makes me a lil sad today, positivity an words of support an hope seem so distant for some reason today. maybe its just one of them days when recovery and happiness feels like a never ending goal ill never reach - but i will i choose to believe in this moment i will. i know what i want i know what recovery is for me what it looks like and feels like and what i would think about and its far away but AT LEAST i have that image. that is enough for now, a year ago i would not have been able to eben comprehend such a thing. i think sometimes this kind of life seems so far off and unreachable but i guess the bad days are those that i remember to fight and the good days when they come are the days i am so thankful i am alive. like earlier just sittin on a swing and for a second not a thought in my head despite the rain and crappy weather i was almost peaceful a lil taste moments like these are what keep me going.

There is no magic cure, no making it all go away forever. There are only small steps upward; an easier day, an unexpected laugh, a mirror that doesn't matter anymore.

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Fantastic article

Hi Joanne,

What a beautiful beautiful article!!!

At the moment I’m trying to accept “being human” e.g. accept that sometimes I’m tired, sometimes I’m sad, sometimes I’m angry, sometimes I’m disappointed… Not chasing after these false highs and looking at the scales to “feel good” all the time.

Like just now after lunch, it’s a lovely sunny day here in Australia but I was feeling a bit tired so I decided to go on the computer and read Iceberg for a while. The ED is saying that I “Should” hang around with everyone else in the sun… but I feel a lot better now just walking away from everyone for a few mins when I was feeling a bit tired. So now I’ll be a more pleasant person to be around!

So I’m really really really glad that you mentioned your different moods and times in your life, not just the good. Although the more grounded I feel, the more I don’t see moods like “sad”, “angry” etc as “bad”. I’m still happy and centered, and feeling a bit curious about the “bad” feeling.

Rock on!!!

Dwari

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Hi Joanne
Thank you for your post. I'm still in that place of getting a false high from avoiding meals, a sense of power from hunger, bones and self abuse in various ways, a sense of security and reassurance that I can cope when I keep myself tortured. I cannot really at this point believe that I will get anything close to that sense by any other means, bizarre as that would seem to anyone other than a fellow iceberger.
Trust is the thing that keeps me going, trust in what you say of your journey, trust in what the therapists say. I can't get a sense for myself yet of anything outside of condition, and I can only trust that some time ago you were just like me. I want to feel at peace with myself without having to punish my body, is that recovery, I guess it is. Meantime I'll keep at it so keep telling your story, I can't hear enough.
kiz